i was at the cat walk yesterday in london as london fashion week draws here. angela aaron, tune into that interview come up in just a couple of minutes on the program. >> looking forward to that. meanwhile, the latest conversation amid the product with horse meat in its product. let's get more on this. carolyn, of course, is in london this week. she's on set with us. >> so nice to have her right around the table. >> and that is a big surprise. nestle held a big press conference for full year results and there are many questions about that, obviously. nestle said, no, we're not exposed. we did not find any traces of horse dna in our products. but then yesterday, as ross said, it had withdrawn two pasta products, bee raf olely and beef tortellinni. the levels of horse meat found in those products, it was higher than the 1% threshold that the food safety organization in the uk uses to indicate whether there was gross mental or not. it is a little intarsing for nestle. it's saying in a statement, we want to apologize to consumer, assure them that the right action